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07-03 11:25 PM
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http://digg.com/politics/Rep_Lofgren_Issues_Statement_on_Updated_Visa_Bulle tin
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amitjoey
07-09 07:22 PM
Amit,
Can you post the template of the email you are sending to the reporters.
- AA
Flowers to Convey Hopes and Concerns of Skilled, Legal Immigrants
July 9, 2007
What
Hundreds of legal, highly-skilled workers, who feel disappointed by the recent "flip-flop" enacted by the Department of State (DoS) and the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS), with regards to eliminating the Green-Card processing delays, plan to send flowers to the USCIS Director, Emilio Gonzalez as a part of a symbolic and peaceful protest.
Where
The flowers are scheduled to be delivered to his office at 20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW Washington D.C. through various flower vendors.
When
July 10th, 2007.
Why
With this effort, they hope to create awareness about their predicament and express their anguish and frustration at the reversal and the lack of action from the Government. These are the highly skilled workers who have been driving the innovation in the US for many decades and have been living in this country legally and yet, they feel that their issues, concerns and contributions to the economy have largely gone unnoticed.
There are 140,000 Green cards allocated for highly-skilled workers and their dependents in a fiscal year (unused visas may not be rolled over to the next year). However, due to over-subscription, thousands of highly-skilled workers, including engineers, scientists, MBAs and health care professionals have been waiting patiently for years in order to be eligible to apply for their Green cards.
On June 13th, 2007, DoS provided a glimmer of hope to these aspiring legal immigrants, by announcing in their visa bulletin that all Employment-based green card applicants and their dependents would be eligible to apply for their Green cards, during the month of July 2007. Following this announcement, most of these future Americans and their sponsoring businesses, began a scramble to compile the documents and complete medical examinations required for their applications. After overcoming several hurdles and enduring hardships, these applicants eagerly waited for July 2, 2007 to send out their applications to the USCIS. However, to their dismay, the DoS, in an unprecedented move, issued an addendum to the visa bulletin, on the very day that the USCIS should have begun accepting their applications, stating that all available visa numbers for the current fiscal year had been used up and that no new applications would be accepted.
This sudden reversal has resulted in emotional distress and financial losses for these individuals and businesses.
Now, these highly-skilled professionals have decided to call attention to the "broken" immigration system in the U.S. for legal immigrants, by sending flowers to the USCIS Director, Emilio Gonzalez. They request that the USCIS honor the original visa bulletin and accept applications received through the month of July. In addition, they hope to encourage the U.S. Government to create more fool-proof immigration policies for the forthcoming year or at the least pass a legislation allowing the continual use of unused employment-based immigrant visa numbers from previous years.
Dilip Tekkedil who came to the US in 1998 for graduate studies and is still waiting for his green card hopes to send a simple message with this campaign – “fix the system”, he says. On various online discussion forums, most skilled, legal immigrants want to send this message to USCIS and more broadly to the US lawmakers – “I understand that your agency does all it can to do the best job. I hope you empathize with a legal immigrant's frustration. A small token of peaceful symbolic act and hoping for the best.”
Media Contact: This symbolic protest largely grew out of grassroots discussion on various forums on the website hosted by the group Immigration Voice. Some volunteers who work with Immigration Voice have been loosely directing this event.
References:
This article on the South Asian Journalist Association's forum explains the issues facing skilled, legal professionals in the US.
Media coverage
The Wall Street Journal: Reversal Frustrates Green-Card Applicants by MIRIAM JORDAN. July 5, 2007; Page A2
The New York Times: Suit Planned Over Visas for the Highly Skilled by JULIA PRESTON. July 6, 2007
The Times Of India: Green Card Hopefuls Resort to Gandhigiri in US by Chidanand Rajghatta. July 7, 2007
The New York Times: Immigration Malpractice. July 7, 2007
Can you post the template of the email you are sending to the reporters.
- AA
Flowers to Convey Hopes and Concerns of Skilled, Legal Immigrants
July 9, 2007
What
Hundreds of legal, highly-skilled workers, who feel disappointed by the recent "flip-flop" enacted by the Department of State (DoS) and the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS), with regards to eliminating the Green-Card processing delays, plan to send flowers to the USCIS Director, Emilio Gonzalez as a part of a symbolic and peaceful protest.
Where
The flowers are scheduled to be delivered to his office at 20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW Washington D.C. through various flower vendors.
When
July 10th, 2007.
Why
With this effort, they hope to create awareness about their predicament and express their anguish and frustration at the reversal and the lack of action from the Government. These are the highly skilled workers who have been driving the innovation in the US for many decades and have been living in this country legally and yet, they feel that their issues, concerns and contributions to the economy have largely gone unnoticed.
There are 140,000 Green cards allocated for highly-skilled workers and their dependents in a fiscal year (unused visas may not be rolled over to the next year). However, due to over-subscription, thousands of highly-skilled workers, including engineers, scientists, MBAs and health care professionals have been waiting patiently for years in order to be eligible to apply for their Green cards.
On June 13th, 2007, DoS provided a glimmer of hope to these aspiring legal immigrants, by announcing in their visa bulletin that all Employment-based green card applicants and their dependents would be eligible to apply for their Green cards, during the month of July 2007. Following this announcement, most of these future Americans and their sponsoring businesses, began a scramble to compile the documents and complete medical examinations required for their applications. After overcoming several hurdles and enduring hardships, these applicants eagerly waited for July 2, 2007 to send out their applications to the USCIS. However, to their dismay, the DoS, in an unprecedented move, issued an addendum to the visa bulletin, on the very day that the USCIS should have begun accepting their applications, stating that all available visa numbers for the current fiscal year had been used up and that no new applications would be accepted.
This sudden reversal has resulted in emotional distress and financial losses for these individuals and businesses.
Now, these highly-skilled professionals have decided to call attention to the "broken" immigration system in the U.S. for legal immigrants, by sending flowers to the USCIS Director, Emilio Gonzalez. They request that the USCIS honor the original visa bulletin and accept applications received through the month of July. In addition, they hope to encourage the U.S. Government to create more fool-proof immigration policies for the forthcoming year or at the least pass a legislation allowing the continual use of unused employment-based immigrant visa numbers from previous years.
Dilip Tekkedil who came to the US in 1998 for graduate studies and is still waiting for his green card hopes to send a simple message with this campaign – “fix the system”, he says. On various online discussion forums, most skilled, legal immigrants want to send this message to USCIS and more broadly to the US lawmakers – “I understand that your agency does all it can to do the best job. I hope you empathize with a legal immigrant's frustration. A small token of peaceful symbolic act and hoping for the best.”
Media Contact: This symbolic protest largely grew out of grassroots discussion on various forums on the website hosted by the group Immigration Voice. Some volunteers who work with Immigration Voice have been loosely directing this event.
References:
This article on the South Asian Journalist Association's forum explains the issues facing skilled, legal professionals in the US.
Media coverage
The Wall Street Journal: Reversal Frustrates Green-Card Applicants by MIRIAM JORDAN. July 5, 2007; Page A2
The New York Times: Suit Planned Over Visas for the Highly Skilled by JULIA PRESTON. July 6, 2007
The Times Of India: Green Card Hopefuls Resort to Gandhigiri in US by Chidanand Rajghatta. July 7, 2007
The New York Times: Immigration Malpractice. July 7, 2007
beppenyc
06-21 04:18 PM
Answering for Logiclife, whose time zone is a couple hours behind.
CIR will likely not be VOTED dead. There just will not be anything done about naming a Conference committee. If a committee is indeed named, but they don't produce a report in 2-3 weeks, then CIR would be deemed dead.
The bottom line is, if nothing happens by the end of July, CIR will likely be dead.
We will be looking at other options much before the end of July. The problem for us is that no other legislation will be considered before the end of July.
Well, hearing is in august, that means that the CIR for this year is dead.
CIR will likely not be VOTED dead. There just will not be anything done about naming a Conference committee. If a committee is indeed named, but they don't produce a report in 2-3 weeks, then CIR would be deemed dead.
The bottom line is, if nothing happens by the end of July, CIR will likely be dead.
We will be looking at other options much before the end of July. The problem for us is that no other legislation will be considered before the end of July.
Well, hearing is in august, that means that the CIR for this year is dead.
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srikondoji
07-08 11:24 AM
Well said.
Such intricate details won't come out in interviews or even personally talking to them. Only lawyers can do it as part of a fight with lawsuits.
1)Why they have to make everybody current?
2)Why they were working weekends (actually heard that govt employees working during weekends is illegal) to clear 60,000 visa numbers?
3) Why did they pick july 2nd to revise the bulletin and did not pre-warn potential applicants?
4)Why no one from DOS or USCIS is talking about exceptions and or remedies for those july applicants who wasted thousands in 2 weeks?
5) What was that urge, which compelled DOS to make everybody current?
6) What will happen to those applicantions reached early morning on july 2nd before revised bulletin became public or those who mailed on june 29/30 for July 2nd delivery?
7) Why did USCIS clear so many applicants by-passing security checks and clearances?
8) Why was there a mad rush in the last 2 weeks of june when in reality visa numbers would go waste on sept end?
9) Why USCIS always talks about under staffed when they are in a possition to clear 60,000 applicantions in a matter of days?
Any more?
--sri
H1bmajdoor -- the blunder I am talking about here is making the dates all current (the original July bulletin) -- who the hell asked them to do that?? Why not move them another year forward? Had they done that I doubt USCIS would have panicked and gone crazy approving people without security checks, approving people whose dates were not current in June or even on July 2.
That had nothing to do with the law, or the ceiling set by law -- it was an arbitrary roll of the dice by DOS, a decision made WITHOUT consulting USCIS.
Such intricate details won't come out in interviews or even personally talking to them. Only lawyers can do it as part of a fight with lawsuits.
1)Why they have to make everybody current?
2)Why they were working weekends (actually heard that govt employees working during weekends is illegal) to clear 60,000 visa numbers?
3) Why did they pick july 2nd to revise the bulletin and did not pre-warn potential applicants?
4)Why no one from DOS or USCIS is talking about exceptions and or remedies for those july applicants who wasted thousands in 2 weeks?
5) What was that urge, which compelled DOS to make everybody current?
6) What will happen to those applicantions reached early morning on july 2nd before revised bulletin became public or those who mailed on june 29/30 for July 2nd delivery?
7) Why did USCIS clear so many applicants by-passing security checks and clearances?
8) Why was there a mad rush in the last 2 weeks of june when in reality visa numbers would go waste on sept end?
9) Why USCIS always talks about under staffed when they are in a possition to clear 60,000 applicantions in a matter of days?
Any more?
--sri
H1bmajdoor -- the blunder I am talking about here is making the dates all current (the original July bulletin) -- who the hell asked them to do that?? Why not move them another year forward? Had they done that I doubt USCIS would have panicked and gone crazy approving people without security checks, approving people whose dates were not current in June or even on July 2.
That had nothing to do with the law, or the ceiling set by law -- it was an arbitrary roll of the dice by DOS, a decision made WITHOUT consulting USCIS.
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snathan
02-09 08:37 PM
Its $669...come on guys
eb3_nepa
05-02 12:04 PM
Guys until CIR passes soft country limits Remain right? ALso a lot of us who have applied on Eb3 DO have Masters in the US, it's just that our lawyers played it safe and applied in EB3.
Please correct me if i am wrong.
Say the SKIL bill goes thru quicker and much b4 the CIR. Then it is beneficial to all of us right? The Eb1s, Eb2s and Eb3's with a US advanced degrees are exempt from the cap and the eb1 overflow will still go to eb2 and eb2 overflow will go to eb3. That way everyone benefits to some degree.
Please please correct me if i am wrong
Please correct me if i am wrong.
Say the SKIL bill goes thru quicker and much b4 the CIR. Then it is beneficial to all of us right? The Eb1s, Eb2s and Eb3's with a US advanced degrees are exempt from the cap and the eb1 overflow will still go to eb2 and eb2 overflow will go to eb3. That way everyone benefits to some degree.
Please please correct me if i am wrong
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Winner
11-18 08:53 AM
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pappu
07-21 10:08 AM
IV will have more money to do advocacy events like the one that just happened. More media spending, more coverage.
This is correct. You not only need funds but also lot of warm sweaty bodies. !!
We need many people working everyday continuously over a period of time. It cannot be --"As and when I get time, i will try. Or I am already contributing by posting ideas on the forum. Or I am EB2 and my date will be current soon so I do not really care, I am not desperate for green card so do not bother me by contacting me. Or IV is for EB2 and I am EB3. Or IV is for Indians and I am ROW." Stop thinking IV just a forum like other forums of lawyers or trackers where the aim is to make money from the long wait and run a business. Here we want to fix the problem so that we no longer need Immigration Voice and all of us can move on in our lives and professional careers.
There have been times when we evaluated our decision of continuing this work after hearing lot of negative comments from our community or seeing lack of participation. A recent proof is the recent funding drive for advocacy day and our thousands of phone calls to members asking them to come to DC. It is not easy to organize any event and it takes lot of planning and funds. None of the members who used to write negative posts after every visa bulletin urging IV to do an event in DC came to DC event or even contributed. Many in the IV team are still involved with this effort even after getting their greencards only to succeed in what we all started out to do together. The commitment needs to be there so that many people can help out even during the day time. One option is for members to have their homemaker spouses volunteer for IV work. We have so many ideas we can work on if there are more sincere people who commit to helping out. Funds are also important. AILA has a budget of 13 million dollars/yr and they can do a lot in terms of advocacy, filing lawsuits, talking with offices on regular basis, organizing conferences each year where lawyers pay to hear USCIS officials, media outreach, meeting other organizations etc etc . They have people in DC to go and meet offices on daily basis. Likewise anti-immigrants too have millions of dollar budgets. You do not see their forums filled with posts of infighting. suspicion and baseless arguments that we have. Many of our posts do not even project us as well educated and mature individuals. We can blame whoever we want-- employers, government, lawyers, karma.... but the real reason why this retrogression problem still exists is because all of us in the community have allowed it to exist. Only we are responsible for the success and failure of our efforts. Nothing is impossible if we have strength and resolve to advocate our issues.
This is correct. You not only need funds but also lot of warm sweaty bodies. !!
We need many people working everyday continuously over a period of time. It cannot be --"As and when I get time, i will try. Or I am already contributing by posting ideas on the forum. Or I am EB2 and my date will be current soon so I do not really care, I am not desperate for green card so do not bother me by contacting me. Or IV is for EB2 and I am EB3. Or IV is for Indians and I am ROW." Stop thinking IV just a forum like other forums of lawyers or trackers where the aim is to make money from the long wait and run a business. Here we want to fix the problem so that we no longer need Immigration Voice and all of us can move on in our lives and professional careers.
There have been times when we evaluated our decision of continuing this work after hearing lot of negative comments from our community or seeing lack of participation. A recent proof is the recent funding drive for advocacy day and our thousands of phone calls to members asking them to come to DC. It is not easy to organize any event and it takes lot of planning and funds. None of the members who used to write negative posts after every visa bulletin urging IV to do an event in DC came to DC event or even contributed. Many in the IV team are still involved with this effort even after getting their greencards only to succeed in what we all started out to do together. The commitment needs to be there so that many people can help out even during the day time. One option is for members to have their homemaker spouses volunteer for IV work. We have so many ideas we can work on if there are more sincere people who commit to helping out. Funds are also important. AILA has a budget of 13 million dollars/yr and they can do a lot in terms of advocacy, filing lawsuits, talking with offices on regular basis, organizing conferences each year where lawyers pay to hear USCIS officials, media outreach, meeting other organizations etc etc . They have people in DC to go and meet offices on daily basis. Likewise anti-immigrants too have millions of dollar budgets. You do not see their forums filled with posts of infighting. suspicion and baseless arguments that we have. Many of our posts do not even project us as well educated and mature individuals. We can blame whoever we want-- employers, government, lawyers, karma.... but the real reason why this retrogression problem still exists is because all of us in the community have allowed it to exist. Only we are responsible for the success and failure of our efforts. Nothing is impossible if we have strength and resolve to advocate our issues.
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keshtwo
08-13 08:21 PM
Here is my update:
EB2 - India
PD - Sep/2006
I 140 approved - Dec 2006
I 485 Date received July 2nd 2007
RD - checks were cashed (date - July 30, 2007)
FP - Got a mail from USCIS regarding finger printing (scheduled - August 29,2007)
So far no receipt by mail, application is at Nebraska.
Yo man, you are one lucky dude! Nebraska hasn't issued many fp mails to July filers.
EB2 - India
PD - Sep/2006
I 140 approved - Dec 2006
I 485 Date received July 2nd 2007
RD - checks were cashed (date - July 30, 2007)
FP - Got a mail from USCIS regarding finger printing (scheduled - August 29,2007)
So far no receipt by mail, application is at Nebraska.
Yo man, you are one lucky dude! Nebraska hasn't issued many fp mails to July filers.
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Jun03
07-02 12:08 AM
Hi guys,
With all the news floating around about the VISAs getting exhausted in early July on one side and having an employer who does not seem too eager to apply for I485 since past two months, how does one deal with it ?
I wish all this was a little less complicated..:confused:
With all the news floating around about the VISAs getting exhausted in early July on one side and having an employer who does not seem too eager to apply for I485 since past two months, how does one deal with it ?
I wish all this was a little less complicated..:confused:
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danu2007
07-09 07:27 PM
I called her and left her a message..May be she might have got enough calls
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vkxml
07-09 05:31 PM
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2155487,00.asp
Nice article in eweek about july fiasco
Nice article in eweek about july fiasco
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delhiguy
07-08 08:51 PM
If that is so, no one who is on H1-b can sue their employer for exploiting them. BTW, I personally know people who have successfully sued their employer (US company) for not paying the salary they agreed.
Under the special labor law
http://www.dol.gov/compliance/guide/h1b.htm
U can sue anybody you want dear..
I am not a lawyer and this is not a legal advice, and i may be wrong
Under the special labor law
http://www.dol.gov/compliance/guide/h1b.htm
U can sue anybody you want dear..
I am not a lawyer and this is not a legal advice, and i may be wrong
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10-18 12:06 PM
My Checks were cashed today :)
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sam_hoosier
12-16 07:01 PM
Eveyone says that. Nobody actually goes back.
I know quite a few people who have gone back in the last year ;), and contrary to perception are quite happy with the choice they made.
I know quite a few people who have gone back in the last year ;), and contrary to perception are quite happy with the choice they made.
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02-12 12:26 PM
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desi3933
03-08 09:33 PM
This is what puzzles me, on one hand you tell us 'You couldn't even begin to imagine how many cases like this there are'....
Which is exactly I have been saying, unless we do something EB3 India could be waiting for a decade or 2...
But on the other hand if I want to address this issue in a manner which could see least resistance, you tells me I'm living in 'Utopia', administrator threatens to 'Ban' me ????
On other hand
>> But on the other hand if I want to address this issue in a manner which could see least resistance
IMHO, you are wrong about the "least resistance" part. Who told you that there is least resistance to change/remove country quota? How did you come to that conclusion?
______________________
US citizen of Indian origin
Which is exactly I have been saying, unless we do something EB3 India could be waiting for a decade or 2...
But on the other hand if I want to address this issue in a manner which could see least resistance, you tells me I'm living in 'Utopia', administrator threatens to 'Ban' me ????
On other hand
>> But on the other hand if I want to address this issue in a manner which could see least resistance
IMHO, you are wrong about the "least resistance" part. Who told you that there is least resistance to change/remove country quota? How did you come to that conclusion?
______________________
US citizen of Indian origin
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11-17 05:18 PM
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nixstor
08-19 07:15 AM
Guys,
There is no point in fighting over the inconsistency of CIS in picking applications. All of us know that a lot of people got approved last year during visa gate and many were left over even though their PD's are current. No one knows how USCIS picks an application for adjudication. It is clearly neither completely RD based nor PD based. It's up to the whims and fancies of CIS.
If IV were to make agenda's on the inconsistencies of USCIS, the list will be endless.
I have 04 PD and am waiting. I have friends with 06 PD's who got approved. I know its frustrating to watch your friends get approved and to have your own case pending for no reason. But this is NOT some thing we should be surprised about. CIS is trying to maximize visa number usage and trying to approve as many applications as they can. All of July 07 filers have passed the 180 days since the FBI name check has been initiated and ideally CIS should be approving applications with old PD's. We all know that we don't live in an ideal world. Imagine all these visa numbers going wasted. I personally (NOT IV) will try to get an answer to this FIFO issue, but the situation itself is short lived and probably will not exist by Oct 1st 08.
There is no point in fighting over the inconsistency of CIS in picking applications. All of us know that a lot of people got approved last year during visa gate and many were left over even though their PD's are current. No one knows how USCIS picks an application for adjudication. It is clearly neither completely RD based nor PD based. It's up to the whims and fancies of CIS.
If IV were to make agenda's on the inconsistencies of USCIS, the list will be endless.
I have 04 PD and am waiting. I have friends with 06 PD's who got approved. I know its frustrating to watch your friends get approved and to have your own case pending for no reason. But this is NOT some thing we should be surprised about. CIS is trying to maximize visa number usage and trying to approve as many applications as they can. All of July 07 filers have passed the 180 days since the FBI name check has been initiated and ideally CIS should be approving applications with old PD's. We all know that we don't live in an ideal world. Imagine all these visa numbers going wasted. I personally (NOT IV) will try to get an answer to this FIFO issue, but the situation itself is short lived and probably will not exist by Oct 1st 08.
arunkotte
07-02 09:53 AM
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Any idea, can we get information any info from the USPS of Lincoln, NE when would they deliver our packages ?
They say this " Information, if available, is updated every evening." I guess we have to wait till the update to know when it was delivered.
Any idea, can we get information any info from the USPS of Lincoln, NE when would they deliver our packages ?
They say this " Information, if available, is updated every evening." I guess we have to wait till the update to know when it was delivered.
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